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Old 08-11-2006, 09:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi Sara..there is a pretty detailed post on this link to another forum on lower abs, so thought you might like to have an a nose

http://heavyhips.tribe.net/thread/5a...3-f754b78521d2
OK - now I'm confused! "Palika" says "butt must be totally loose" and yet my instructor and every video I've seen, not to mention the thread on butt tucking seems to indicate that the butt is tightened.

Can anyone help me understand this apparent contradiction???
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OK - now I'm confused! "Palika" says "butt must be totally loose" and yet my instructor and every video I've seen, not to mention the thread on butt tucking seems to indicate that the butt is tightened.

Can anyone help me understand this apparent contradiction???
OOoo.. I would like to know this too! I have run into a similar contradiction!

I have been assuming that "tucked in" refers to the pelvis but NOT the glutial muscles. I give quite a rude pelvic thrust forward - then relax just a little - and use that as my "tucked in" posture and leave my butt muscles loose.
I want to know if I am doing this correctly!

Thank you for posting this topic!

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It's an unfortunate choice of words that some teacher's use to try to get students to lengthen their spines but pointing the tailbone to the ground.
You are not actually 'tucking' the pelvis under, but rather are using the psoas muscles (they're located in the lower abdomen and run around the outside of your groin) to push the tailbone so it is pointing to the ground...the buttocks aren't involved at all.
Think of pulling your belly button in to your spine, but not over-using your abs and completely disengaging your tush!
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It's an unfortunate choice of words that some teacher's use to try to get students to lengthen their spines but pointing the tailbone to the ground.
You are not actually 'tucking' the pelvis under, but rather are using the psoas muscles (they're located in the lower abdomen and run around the outside of your groin) to push the tailbone so it is pointing to the ground...the buttocks aren't involved at all.
Think of pulling your belly button in to your spine, but not over-using your abs and completely disengaging your tush!
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Just repeating the good stuff here

Thanks!! This is very helpful and explains why this move both hurts and helps my (torn) psoas muscle. OK, now that I've been trying to engage my glutes I'll work on concentrating more in and up - the lower abs actually don't give me much problem *whew* and frankly, my butt looked kinda silly and pointed when I clenched :o
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Ah! I am understanding now!
Great info!


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................frankly, my butt looked kinda silly and pointed when I clenched :o
ROFL! When pointed and clenched I at least look like a HAVE a butt!


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Ah! I am understanding now!
Great info!




ROFL! When pointed and clenched I at least look like a HAVE a butt!


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I DO understand - but mine just looked like a put a pointy hat on it :eek: - I too am in need of some buttage and boobage. Oh my, is there hope ...g
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....... I too am in need of some buttage and boobage. Oh my, is there hope ...g
Boobage I got, hon! If I could unload some on ya, trust me I would! I think when the gods were handing it out I got a double portion 'cause someone was in the bathroom or something and didn't get theirs! LOL!!

Haven't gotten into any real chest shaking yet for that reason - don't have an industrial bra yet. Once I've got jingles on the mamas and start tossing them around they better be STRAPPED DOWN TO SOMETHING! :p :eek:

Maybe if I jump up and down my boobs will get smaller and my butt will get bigger! Like peanuts settling to the bottom of the bag!

Ya think?
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.......I got a double portion 'cause someone was in the bathroom or something and didn't get theirs! LOL!!
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Maybe if I jump up and down my boobs will get smaller and my butt will get bigger! Like peanuts settling to the bottom of the bag!

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LOL

You have MINE ......... nah, the peanuts will just settle around your knees or ankles :eek:
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I DO understand - but mine just looked like a put a pointy hat on it :eek:
*DIES* oh gods, Gabs, the images... Now I want pics

You're followin' me around again, aren't you?! Everywhere I go, there's that darned dog runner....

(nb for others, Gabi and I have known each other for years and have a tendancy to follow each other around the net )
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*DIES* oh gods, Gabs, the images... Now I want pics

You're followin' me around again, aren't you?! Everywhere I go, there's that darned dog runner....

(nb for others, Gabi and I have known each other for years and have a tendancy to follow each other around the net )

:p it's that old saying about great minds - we naturally travel the same directions ..... your boobs and my ummm, ummmm, enthusiasm, that's it enthusiasm ;~)
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